tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post5433049813766152777..comments2023-06-16T10:55:07.460+01:00Comments on ASLEF shrugged: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-29114682317139705602015-08-20T15:42:46.497+01:002015-08-20T15:42:46.497+01:00See my earlier post.See my earlier post.I am truth.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06373373833461092619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-3145692708879385552015-08-20T15:38:31.325+01:002015-08-20T15:38:31.325+01:00All this bickering from grown men and women. This ...All this bickering from grown men and women. This is the reason I'm no longer a member of any union. I think most people that work for LU forget how well paid we are and how fair an employer LU is. Shift work is shift work,we all signed up for it quick enough when offered the job. Most people I've met in my time with LU (22 years) have no qualifications whatsoever, outside of our terrible job you would be lucky to earn half what you earn as a train op. That's the truth. Stop moaning, get on with your jobs and be grateful you don't work in a supermarket. I am truth.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06373373833461092619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-60628981294073277172015-08-18T23:16:08.393+01:002015-08-18T23:16:08.393+01:00What a load of utter bollox!
You want to 'mean...What a load of utter bollox!<br />You want to 'means test' strikers for viability?<br />Anyone in serious need can apply to hardship funds. Anyone worth salt that can afford will donate to whatever fund as feels worth.<br />Guess what - EVERYBODY HAS A FAMILY, you seem to want to narrow the definition of it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-67403476772005996242015-08-18T03:26:20.479+01:002015-08-18T03:26:20.479+01:00Well said Shrugged!Well said Shrugged!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-18925439438473826462015-08-15T08:19:59.213+01:002015-08-15T08:19:59.213+01:00"The rosters that have been put out are the r..."The rosters that have been put out are the rosters from hell " Steve Hedley 6 August 2015<br /><br />"This could have a huge impact...changeovers would become impossible, work life balance would be destroyed and fatigue problems would go through the roof!" Finn Brennan 27 April 2015ASLEF shruggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188861221455845621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-7243484413753440022015-08-15T08:09:37.352+01:002015-08-15T08:09:37.352+01:00Oh I forgot RMT is always right aren't they!
...Oh I forgot RMT is always right aren't they!<br /><br />No. <br /><br />ASLEF went into dispute due to the publishing of the Victoria Line rosters not Night Tube. That is a fact. I know because unlike you I was at the ASLEF reps meeting and I know what we agreed. <br /><br />THIS IS WHAT TRIGGERED US TO BALLOT. <br /><br />Unlike the dying other union who are haemorrhaging members left right and centre we choose our battles. Night tube rosters not being imposed, no need to strike now - take stock, talk, negotiate and go out again if needs be (which it will be) at a later date. <br /><br />Also don't show your chidishness with that sort of pathetic language - although it's another reason why more and more people including RMTs own reps are feeling increasing embarrassed to be in your union. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-84605029517122017082015-08-15T08:02:01.591+01:002015-08-15T08:02:01.591+01:00If you don't feel happy with ASLEFs position g...If you don't feel happy with ASLEFs position go to your branch meeting and put over your view and try to change things! <br /><br />Plus you personally don't have to go into work on the strike days if you feel that strong about it. Personally I agree with my unions position but I won't cross an RMT picket line. <br /><br />Or is it that you are not actually an ASLEF member?????? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-23681170976866638202015-08-15T05:44:05.172+01:002015-08-15T05:44:05.172+01:00There clearly is a difference between a striker wi...There clearly is a difference between a striker with a family and new to the London property market and one who isn't. In the interest of solidarity those better off could donate to a hardship fund to keep the others going. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-72323203398776379592015-08-15T01:15:23.199+01:002015-08-15T01:15:23.199+01:00No. You get your facts right. ASLEF, RMT, TSSA and...No. You get your facts right. ASLEF, RMT, TSSA and Unite started strike over rejection of paltry intial pay offer for Night Tube working and lack of movement regarding pay deal. PAY is the buzz word there. RMT were first to raise issue of rosters. Steve Hedley was first to mention " rosters from hell" for mainly RMTs station members. STATION guys. This was later taken up by all the unions including ASLEF. Probably after it had dawned on them that, "Oh yeah. The depot rosters are shit, too. Duh". And the rest, as they say, is history...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-27809082700366682522015-08-15T00:56:55.913+01:002015-08-15T00:56:55.913+01:00...and after ASLEF hop into bed with Management wh......and after ASLEF hop into bed with Management what do they do? Anyone? Bueller...Bueller... THEY SUCK MANAGEMENT DICK!!! lmao. The other poster had it right first time.disgusted ASLEF memebernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-44839535802267529852015-08-14T19:00:16.322+01:002015-08-14T19:00:16.322+01:00If night tube does ever start, staff will use on t...If night tube does ever start, staff will use on there days off, it is like that new motorway that everyone protests about and that no one if ever going to use, and lo and behold everyone starts to use it not long after it opens. I am resigned to the 2 days strike and being told how wonderful I am by Mick Cash for my loyalty to the Union.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-73870550914127563142015-08-14T17:19:42.308+01:002015-08-14T17:19:42.308+01:00ASLEFs strike started due to the threaten impositi...ASLEFs strike started due to the threaten imposition of Night Tube rosters get your facts right!<br /><br />Other unions seems obsessed with pay - we want quality time off and rosters that can be worked.<br /><br />All RMT want it seems is to try to win their lost Fit for Staions battle - you lost guys, move on and try to look after your remaining members otherwise you will have no presence on LU very soonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-37866584310266378082015-08-14T17:17:03.324+01:002015-08-14T17:17:03.324+01:00We've just shown our strength in the last two ...We've just shown our strength in the last two strikes - no trains and as near as damn it 100% support. Thats resulted in sheets being taken down and no way Night Tube will be operating on 12th September. <br /><br />Why strike again on 25/27 August we have just won the first battle of the war!<br /><br />Save the 2 day pay loss for strikes later in the year if talks go nowhere to they threaten us again with imposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-71601673928254722272015-08-14T17:13:26.966+01:002015-08-14T17:13:26.966+01:00Night Tube rosters won't be imposed. Its in wr...Night Tube rosters won't be imposed. Its in writing from HR director. Whats hard to read? Even if they go back on that it would still require weeks of notice for an imposition and what would we do...7 days notice and strike! <br /><br />As far as information get with the 21st century and check Facebook, Twitter, get on the mailing g lists with your local reps and the TFC guys. I get more information now than I have ever received.<br /><br />Why do you mention money? <br /><br />We want time off, a rest day after nights that isn't spent in bed asleep recovering from nights, and a limit to weekend working not money FFSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-21168156159105394602015-08-14T17:06:25.009+01:002015-08-14T17:06:25.009+01:00Agree but why should ASLEF members strike on 25/27...Agree but why should ASLEF members strike on 25/27 August?<br /><br />These are the sorts of issues that need to be discussed and consulted on. When we're striking neither of these things happen.<br /><br />No operational staff wants Night Tube as far as I see but its going to happen. But now its isn't going to be imposed so we can start proper talks. Neither side having a gun at their head.<br /><br />If talks fail and imposition raises its head....7 days notice and out we go!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-90189179136885171182015-08-14T17:03:16.963+01:002015-08-14T17:03:16.963+01:00Seriously get your facts right.
ASLEF negotiated ...Seriously get your facts right.<br /><br />ASLEF negotiated a great deal on the Olympics for DRIVERS whom they represent.<br /><br />RMT were willing to do the duties for c£15 a shift whereas those of that worked through the Olympics earn significantly more than that - I learnt c£3000 extra for Olympics and c£2000 for the Paras....how much did the RMT get for their station staff? Nowhere near that amount that's for sureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-23675435397266323662015-08-14T17:00:08.075+01:002015-08-14T17:00:08.075+01:00Members will move on only one direction ... RMT to...Members will move on only one direction ... RMT to ASLEFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-76592689068702451932015-08-14T16:59:06.365+01:002015-08-14T16:59:06.365+01:00You live in cloud cookoo land there were plenty of...You live in cloud cookoo land there were plenty of RMT drivers that worked that day and crossed picket lines with a smug smile on their faceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-77335685392607927712015-08-14T15:12:40.561+01:002015-08-14T15:12:40.561+01:00Whilst there is no need to use such words (as the ...Whilst there is no need to use such words (as the dick word) there does appear sadly to be this general feeling that ASLEF do tend to hop into bed with management. Management know that by getting ASLEF (68% of the drivers on LU I am told) to work then they can flood stations with managers, admin and other staff to get a lot of lines or parts of lines running thus breaking the other unions resolve. Granted and full credit to those that still refuse to cross picket lines. I hope the whole night thing goes dead because Barmy Boris want's the night tube on his CV that's all regardless of roster's or safety issues. He is just ploughing ahead as he has done with Ticket Office closures regardless of what everybody else says or objects to. So far this strike has been solid. I have enjoyed being on the picket line twice at White City with my RMT colleagues (station staff and drivers) and ASLEF colleagues, where the spirit have been good and food and drink enjoyed together forming good bonds. Sadly no other of the Unions were represented on our pickets. At the end of the day...it is US (Unions) against THEM (LU Management) and by sticking together we can make sure we all get a better deal and safety is not compromised. The rumours are rife as well about management not wanting night tube, but of course we have to consider Barmy Boris's CV remember!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-80830939190605324412015-08-14T11:54:11.304+01:002015-08-14T11:54:11.304+01:00err...because you are obviously a child. You must ...err...because you are obviously a child. You must be if you cant see the fallacy in ASLEF having separate talks with management? Even if as you say its just ASLEF doing a "wait and see", then why the talks independent of the other 3 unions?? The rosters are going to be shit even if our weekends off stay the same. They will be because of the finishing times of the extended lates/nights. Think on that everyone. We don't need status quo we require fairer parameters and a whole NEW rethink on all the policies. We could have got this if ASLEF hadn't started to suck management dick again. Offended. Prude?? Good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-35641998346046451942015-08-14T09:17:37.670+01:002015-08-14T09:17:37.670+01:00The last time ASLEF went on strike was on the Cent...The last time ASLEF went on strike was on the Central Line last year and almost every RMT TOp refused to cross the picket line because the grievances affected them too.ASLEF shruggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188861221455845621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-34788348541394995222015-08-14T09:13:35.332+01:002015-08-14T09:13:35.332+01:00ASLEF negotiated the Olympic deal in April 2012 an...ASLEF negotiated the Olympic deal in April 2012 and the Daily Mail ran a piece claiming we'd be earning £6200 each.ASLEF shruggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188861221455845621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-42094437453682853692015-08-13T22:02:33.684+01:002015-08-13T22:02:33.684+01:00I get regular updates by text message from my loca...I get regular updates by text message from my local rep and exec council while Finn has his Twitter account and Facebook page. Welcome to social media...ASLEF shruggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188861221455845621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-60087265494601265772015-08-13T21:10:01.675+01:002015-08-13T21:10:01.675+01:00This (above) is just what management want - tell l...This (above) is just what management want - tell lies, work round their mates in the media so the LU staff story never gets an airing, then stick in the garden fork. I'm a TSSA member and thankfully a long way away from my Underground days. We must stick together - management keep looking for the fag-paper thin gaps between us, and they're got the resource to exploit that.<br /><br />LU management blundered because Johnson dropped them into this, and he won't take the blame (which is why not even wild horses will get him into the talks); LU management can now see P60s lined up as their reward for failure, which is the only reason why they've shifted - a bit. This is our wedge between them and Johnson - we need to be together, to exploit that.<br /><br />Each of the four unions represents real people in real jobs with real bills to pay, and real lives to live. Don't forget the 'little folk' who also stand and serve. Each union has specialists who are members, each member pays their subs. Johnson screwed up and united all of us for the first time since when - the General Strike? That won't go well in his bid to become PM - which is what this is all really about. Give Osborne and May the poisoned knife to stick into Johnson - stick together!TSSA membernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6704342683198287523.post-58040496817516753542015-08-13T19:03:47.694+01:002015-08-13T19:03:47.694+01:00Why must you resort to childish name calling ?? My...Why must you resort to childish name calling ?? My point is while talks are ongoing and night tube rosters are not bring brought in without agrrement why not see what they offer if no good then strike save the lost wages tull then Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com