Thursday 18 June 2015



Wow, that was quick! ASLEF have asked members not to book on between 21:30 Wednesday 8th July until 21:29 Thursday 9th July, we're not even waiting for the result of the RMT and TSSA ballots.  No night turns on the Wednesday will mean that its likely that the last trains will run a bit earlier but on the Thursday the only people in will be RMT members who cross the picket line and there won't be many of those.  LUL have got three weeks to get their finger out.

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  1. Likewise some ASLEF members cross RMT picket lines which is a shame. We should respect each others pickets.

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    1. A lot of RMT and TSSA crossed their own picket lines when they called the strike over ticket offices

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    2. And some of them did a double shift too. RMT used drivers to fight for the ticket office closures as station staff didnt really bother to strike.

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    3. Some yes....not a lot and believe me they got the message after. On our group it was about 95% solid walked out. Like mentioned below they use all sorts of ways to man the stations with people who don't have a clue. Station side are getting shafted the most in recent times and as transport workers we need all the support we can muster from fellow transport workers. Again, below, lets all work together rather than try to gain points over each other.

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    4. And for the record....I know of at least 2 ASEF drivers who worked during your boxing day dispute. It happens sadly in all walks of life. If they have a genuine reason to not lose money then fair enough although the Hardship Fund could be used. So no more points scoring please.......lets do this one together.

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    5. ASLEF sorry...

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  2. RMT's ballot closes on 30th June and have to give a minimum of 7 days notice for a strike action (assuming members vote for strike) Therefore all unions would be able to strike on 8th July and probably decided the date jointly!

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  3. Well said the last comment! Aslef have chosen this date to enable Rmt and Tssa members to join the action IF they get a yes vote for strike action.

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  4. @RMT : You call that a strike? THIS is a strke!!!

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    1. Train Driver's have the advantage that if they go on strike then TFL can't simply empty out the head offices and staff the trains. The last station strike you couldn't move in central London for "ambassadors" and they just leave above ground stations unstaffed.

      Kind of makes you wonder what everyone in head office does all day if they can all stop it for two days with no downsides

      I think the only thing that protects the station staff pension scheme is that it's the train driver's as well, otherwise we'd be doomed

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  5. Lets all unite for one cause, This should not be about the Unions scoring points from each other but rather staff winning from senior management so that our jobs and terms are fair and just for all.

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    1. Out on the mainline there is a lot of cooperation between unions because the grades never got mixed, the drivers are in ASLEF, the ticket office staff are in TSSA and the rest are in RMT, it's only on LUL its a complete bitch-fest.

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  6. There has been deafening silence from senior management since the ASLEF ballot was announced. Did they really expect a different result? I guess some hoped they could question the % threshold and somehow declare the result lacking in legitimacy, but the result is so massive they seem to have been rendered speechless! To those who think "work/life issues" are all a fuss of nothing, I list a proposed Northern Line duty pattern - Mon (RD), Tue (Late turn), Wed (Late turn), Thu (Late turn), Fri (Night Turn), Sat (Night Turn), Sun (so-called "Rest Day even though you don't finish until 07:30), Mon (Dead Early!). And LU think people are going to accept this for a couple of one-off non-pensionable payments?

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    1. That is a terrible proposition. What do management expect? Everyone to roll over and have bellies tickled and do nothing about this? Are they that naïve or just so unbelievably brazen? They're tactics have been low so far to say the least. Making our pay and conditions that we currently have public. Is this just not a hope that they'll get public opinion on their side? What the hell has our current conditions got to do with this current dispute? Are we supposed to accept any changes, especially like these for the worse, just because we currently earn £15,000 more than the average London wage? We earn that through past achievements in discussions not for future changes. Anyway rant over. It'll be interesting to watch this pan out.

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